tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26974492.post9164317543689283271..comments2024-03-28T17:41:16.232-04:00Comments on alien romances: "Mr. Ed" and Writing the Great American NovelRowena Cherryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11839386556697211986noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26974492.post-91432526153367210212007-06-15T01:58:00.000-04:002007-06-15T01:58:00.000-04:00JL writes: You should save that paragraph -- maybe...JL writes: <I>You should save that paragraph -- maybe that Iconic Romance Novel that becomes a TV Series is in that paragraph. It seethes with potential. </I><BR/><BR/>Well, goodness! ;-) Tell you what, I'll save it and we'll kick it around in the bar at Archon in August. I'm just not quite sure how to turn THAT particular issue into a novel, and I'm not one to write a single-genre (romance) novel. It'd have to be cross with something (rom suspence, sci fi, etc). <BR/><BR/>You really can't do quest for emotional fulfillment until a character has a strong sense of self, or else the fulfillment will be for the wrong thing (a lack) instead of a complement. <BR/><BR/>Am I making sense? It's almost 2am. ;-) ~LinneaLinnea Sinclairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03633057411107208569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26974492.post-60659544209183221312007-06-14T18:02:00.000-04:002007-06-14T18:02:00.000-04:00Thank you!Thank you!Kimber Lihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03982239712083114488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26974492.post-64773238125493040502007-06-14T15:30:00.000-04:002007-06-14T15:30:00.000-04:00Kimber An:Here's the direct link to my 2007 review...Kimber An:<BR/><BR/>Here's the direct link to my 2007 review columns. <BR/><BR/>http://www.simegen.com/reviews/rereadablebooks/2007/<BR/><BR/>Jacqueline Lichtenberg<BR/>http://www.simegen.com/jl/Jacqueline Lichtenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01613040740264804278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26974492.post-5704803390150608172007-06-14T15:03:00.000-04:002007-06-14T15:03:00.000-04:00Linnea wrote: I'm also not sure romance will even ...Linnea wrote: <BR/><BR/>I'm also not sure romance will even reach icon status--however you define it--because of that. Until emotions and the quest for emotional fulfillment becomes a valid goal, until the importance of companionship is fully recognized, until the DISSECTION of what it takes to acheive those things is given credence...we will always be the opiate of the useless drudge of the household.<BR/><BR/>You should save that paragraph -- maybe that Iconic Romance Novel that becomes a TV Series is in that paragraph. It seethes with potential. <BR/><BR/>Jacqueline Lichtenberg<BR/>http://www.simegen.com/jl/Jacqueline Lichtenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01613040740264804278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26974492.post-62727097060443592832007-06-14T15:01:00.000-04:002007-06-14T15:01:00.000-04:00Ilona has a good point - that the Romance Genre Ic...Ilona has a good point - that the Romance Genre Icon won't really appear to mark an inflection point until there is a major shift in the way people look at life.<BR/><BR/>However, I think I see signs of that shift actually emerging. <BR/><BR/>Kimber An: You can use the simegen.com top page GOOGLE SITE SEARCH on Dresden to find what's been posted so far. The last 6 months of this year (2007) have numerous mentions or allusions to what I learned doing the interview.<BR/><BR/>But all of that takes off on the issues and observations made in the first 6 months of this year. I do long lists of review columns to make a single point -- a series as it were -- because they allow me so little space each month. <BR/><BR/>I'm actually posting more words here than in my column. Short takes longer! <BR/><BR/>If I did these weekly essays on Tarot, I'd be able to finish my other two Tarot books and maybe get them published. But who on this blog would be interested in Tarot card essays.<BR/><BR/>Jacqueline Lichtenberg<BR/>http://www.simegen.com/jl/Jacqueline Lichtenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01613040740264804278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26974492.post-58948229374346594012007-06-14T14:54:00.000-04:002007-06-14T14:54:00.000-04:00Ah, yes, THIRD ROCK FROM THE SUN -- part of the MY...Ah, yes, THIRD ROCK FROM THE SUN -- part of the MY FAVORITE MARTIAN linneage. Definitely iconic.<BR/><BR/>Jacqueline Lichtenberg<BR/>http://www.simegen.com/jl/Jacqueline Lichtenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01613040740264804278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26974492.post-59753757020760884102007-06-13T13:58:00.000-04:002007-06-13T13:58:00.000-04:00To me icon means a word or person that sums up a w...To me <B>icon</B> means a word or person that sums up a whole ethos of current opinion. So far it hasn't been too over used by the media (luckily).<BR/>As to romance and icons I don't think we will ever have that until people become less materialistic and more spiritual (in an emotional sense).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26974492.post-67210158644515381172007-06-13T11:55:00.000-04:002007-06-13T11:55:00.000-04:00Didn't Third Rock from the Sun have comedy and ali...Didn't Third Rock from the Sun have comedy and alien romance?<BR/><BR/>Vicky WAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26974492.post-66101523475410183512007-06-13T08:32:00.000-04:002007-06-13T08:32:00.000-04:00Will do, Linnea. Thanks!I've just reserved books ...Will do, Linnea. Thanks!<BR/><BR/>I've just reserved books on screenwriting for dummies and idiots, appropriately enough. I also found one entitled 'Power Screenwriting - the 12 Steps of Storytelling.'Kimber Lihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03982239712083114488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26974492.post-37993725045030649642007-06-12T22:32:00.000-04:002007-06-12T22:32:00.000-04:00Kimber, JL's comments and articles on conflict and...Kimber, JL's comments and articles on conflict and characterization are worth hunting down. Go to the second link in my blog from yesterday the says World Crafters Guild. If you still can't find her stuff, lemme know. Unless she's moved things around, I probably remember where they are. I also copied and pasted a lot of her articles and advice for that reason--it was easy to get sidetracked on her site. ;-) ~Linnea<BR/><BR/>www.linneasinclair.comLinnea Sinclairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03633057411107208569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26974492.post-60911444709230666212007-06-12T22:20:00.000-04:002007-06-12T22:20:00.000-04:00Well, I've just come from Sime-Gen and I must conf...Well, I've just come from Sime-Gen and I must confess I was a little overwhelmed. Couldn't find your review of Dresdin Files at all. Wouldn't know where to begin in the Worldcrafters Guild. Don't know if any of it applies to me, now that I've moved on to my YA novel. It's most accurately labeled Science Fantasy after Wikipedia's definitions of Fantasy sub-genres. I may polish one of my Historicals next. Did I admit to being easily distracted yet? In any case, I'm off to find resources on Screenwriting now!<BR/>:o)<BR/><BR/>P.S. I got Lisa Shearin's book in the mail today!Kimber Lihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03982239712083114488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26974492.post-77500687449332387082007-06-12T19:52:00.000-04:002007-06-12T19:52:00.000-04:00Icon to me is symbol of something that in one visu...Icon to me is symbol of something that in one visual queue communicates a whole body of experience - so I think you're on to something with linking icons with major social concious shifts.<BR/><BR/>As to votes for alien romance...Battle Star Galactica - human/cylon. And, Star Gate. Not sure how widely watched they are. You might be dead on with Buffy/Angle.Ursulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13202399120717363308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26974492.post-41425882084193153892007-06-12T17:41:00.000-04:002007-06-12T17:41:00.000-04:00Definitely lots to digest in your wonderful column...Definitely lots to digest in your wonderful column, Jacqueline, so I'll have to come back.<BR/><BR/>To answer one question, I define a Cultural Icon as a timeless human truth looked at in a brand new way and typically represented by a person and/or art form.<BR/><BR/>Gotta go. It's naptime!Kimber Lihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03982239712083114488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26974492.post-63389288310235169012007-06-12T17:12:00.000-04:002007-06-12T17:12:00.000-04:00JL, you have sooo much worth commenting on here bu...JL, you have sooo much worth commenting on here but I'm in a time crunch. I just want to start with this and I'll get to other points later this evening.<BR/><BR/>JL writes: <I>Romance is still considered "girly" fare, kid-lit, or the opiate of the useless drudge of the household.</I><BR/><BR/>Gawd, that says it all. Damned by faint praise, eh? I recently posted a (fully factual) and glowing review of Lisa Shearin's MAGIC LOST TROUBLE FOUND on Amazon, only to have a poster comment (and it was from a female!) that my review was "from a romance author" and was therefore of less value (if any at all).<BR/><BR/>I really thought the reading public had evolved beyond THAT. Evidently not.<BR/><BR/>I'm also not sure romance will even reach icon status--however you define it--because of that. Until emotions and the quest for emotional fulfillment becomes a valid goal, until the importance of companionship is fully recognized, until the DISSECTION of what it takes to acheive those things is given credence...we will always be the opiate of the useless drudge of the household.<BR/><BR/>The vehemence by which the romance book industry is decried by others is truly frighening.<BR/><BR/>And yet romance is 55%+ of the paperback book market. The largest seller BY FAR (SF is about 7%).<BR/><BR/>~LinneaLinnea Sinclairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03633057411107208569noreply@blogger.com